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Pardue

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4380 on: January 27, 2013, 02:22:23 am »
Excellent info. I'm filing this under the "scam" folder in my head.

And c'mon a $0 to $1 price estimate for each device when you order 500? This is not a happy meal toy being produced. The only bigger neon sign pointing to a scam would be if they said you have to send the money in advance and they'll pay you back with millions of dollars once their CEO (who happens to be a prince) is released from a Nigerian prison cell.

But it is still alarming if there is even one unit unaccounted for in the hands of someone like this.

Maybe they don't have the unit? Maybe someone took photos of one just before it went out so they could make their scam?

Alternatively, here's my analysis from what I see *pulls out magnifying glass*

We can narrow it down because the unit is either a prototype or one of the first 40. Here's why I say that: the shoulder buttons have black lettering, not blue, which indicates this is not an early prototype. However, the speaker grill is an actual metal grill, not mesh, which tells us it is not a "real" production SE. However, it might be one of the first 40 because on the IRC forum, jimclarson reported to me that he has a first 40 unit with a metal grill instead of mesh. Q informed the two of us in that conversation that this is because some Chinese PMP players use the same one that was used on the prototypes so it was an early QA mistake.

Here's another clue: the paint on the unit is defective. The black units are not using full black plastic. We know this because Articus told us he has a white scratch on his black prototype. If you look closely at the low-res photos of the unit, we can see that there are several consistent scratches that appear. One is in the upper right hand corner above the Y and A buttons. Another is on the left hand side above the wrist strap hole. The last is on the right, below the screen, above the micro-SD card slot.

Sooooo... let's do the math: 1) it has defective paint on it; 2) it has the early metal speaker grill that the production units shouldn't be using. Whomever has this unit did a really bad QA job on it. Now, why was the first QA guy fired? For doing his QA job badly!!!

Here's what I say happened: the early QA got fired and decided (for money or revenge) to take a defective unit home so he could create this scam or maybe he planned to do this before he was ever fired. If you trust the factory when they say they're not doing anything behind your back, then this makes perfect sense. It wouldn't be someone still involved because then why use an early unit with defective paint when you could just take a perfect one off the assembly line? The factory and the people still involved in the project are not to blame, it's the guy who had access to the early units and he left his own shoddy QA finger prints all over it!

I'm only working with photos, facts and inferences. Here's my conclusion: the old QA guy is behind all of this. Book 'em Danno! And he would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for that meddling Pardue!

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4381 on: January 27, 2013, 02:37:00 am »
I bit the bullet and got one! I'm hoping to see some more indie projects on this device!

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4382 on: January 27, 2013, 03:26:30 am »
I see the GCW has had enough time to post multiple messages about the knock-off GCW so can you PLEASE make enough time to answer a few unanswered questions? How many of the first 40 units are still waiting to be sent and why has there been such a HUGE delay on sending those units out? Also, now that you have added all of the extras to the SE models, how much more of a delay is it going to be until they are all sent out? It looks like the Stretch Goal #3 Pouch will be reached and I'm sure they haven't been ordered yet along with the other Stretch Goal items, so when can we REALLY expect to see these units? Last update was late Jan-Mid Feb but I don't see how that is possible when you have to add all of these other extras that haven't been ordered yet. To our knowledge you have had the first 40 units in your hands for weeks now and if it takes this long to get 40 frankenunits out, which don't need any SD modification or extras, then should we be expecting the same kind of delays for the SE models?

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4383 on: January 27, 2013, 03:44:31 am »
I'm only working with photos, facts and inferences. Here's my conclusion: the old QA guy is behind all of this. Book 'em Danno! And he would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for that meddling Pardue!

I have a theory on what happened but I'll wait for the kickstarter to be done and fund justin so the mass production can begin before I say anything

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4384 on: January 27, 2013, 04:06:13 am »
Looking up some stuff wrt psx emu on ps2 led me to ps2psxe, or a sw(dynarec) psx emu for the ps2.

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f292/some-useless-stuff-about-ps2psxe-emulator-105356/

(well that forum, this thread discusses what it does and mentions sending source out...)

That might be a bit useful for a basis for a zero psx emu, although the ps2 CPU is a MIPSIII/IV variant... still...

also relented and reset my pledge back to $50, still haven't read the intervening posts here yet as the above was quite interesting as I never realized that the psx emu for ps2(native) got released, nor that a some what workable swap native method was released(psxlauncher->freemcboot->psxlauncher->real game->pause->swap to backup->profit).

gcw

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4385 on: January 27, 2013, 05:04:15 am »
@Yertle Your consoles will shipped in next couple of coming weeks before March 2013 and goodies will be shipped same time I ship KS their goodies and consoles. You will be sent e-mail for your shirt size when I ship the console...

retrodd

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4386 on: January 27, 2013, 10:14:45 am »
hi guys, did anyone get the GCW? I don't think so! I really believe that the prototype is a fake!!
If anyone received the SE edition, please make a video and post it on youtube.
I only find videos from five or six persons, most of the GCW Team.

I have a dream!
I'll take a new JXD open it and put the pcb in my self builded case . My brand "XRC"
XRC means "xtreme retro console", then i make a video showed some emulators running.
Then i start my own kickstarter and hope you guys will spend a lot.
If i got 130'000 bucks, i'll ask my chinese friend (he lives in shenzhen) if he'll help me to produce it.
simple, isn't it :P




Alien Grey

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4387 on: January 27, 2013, 10:37:25 am »
Why all this work?

Just change the bezel and call it the "XRC".  ;)
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mlatu

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4388 on: January 27, 2013, 11:20:34 am »
hi guys, did anyone get the GCW? I don't think so! I really believe that the prototype is a fake!!
If anyone received the SE edition, please make a video and post it on youtube.
I only find videos from five or six persons, most of the GCW Team.

I have a dream!
I'll take a new JXD open it and put the pcb in my self builded case . My brand "XRC"
XRC means "xtreme retro console", then i make a video showed some emulators running.
Then i start my own kickstarter and hope you guys will spend a lot.
If i got 130'000 bucks, i'll ask my chinese friend (he lives in shenzhen) if he'll help me to produce it.
simple, isn't it :P

IIRC so far only a couple of frankenzeros and prototypes were shipped. maybe with new bezels, so... yeah, shut up, stop spreading hate and be patient a bit more.

NoeL

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4389 on: January 27, 2013, 11:22:04 am »
If anyone received the SE edition, please make a video and post it on youtube.
BAFelton and Pardue have both received their SE's and made multiple videos showing it off. I think Articus may have also, but I'm not sure. Jimclarkson showed photos of his, I think.

Anyway, I hope your post was supposed to be sarcastic, because I got a chuckle out if it. :P

George

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4390 on: January 27, 2013, 11:54:10 am »
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190318092401/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM</a>

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4391 on: January 27, 2013, 01:44:42 pm »
If anyone received the SE edition, please make a video and post it on youtube.
BAFelton and Pardue have both received their SE's and made multiple videos showing it off. I think Articus may have also, but I'm not sure. Jimclarkson showed photos of his, I think.

Anyway, I hope your post was supposed to be sarcastic, because I got a chuckle out if it. :P

Hey what about me dont forget me too I am on the frankenzero list as well lol look at my avatar for proof.

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4392 on: January 27, 2013, 03:59:49 pm »
Almost to $200,000 gogogo!

elwing

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4393 on: January 27, 2013, 04:37:29 pm »
hi guys, did anyone get the GCW? I don't think so! I really believe that the prototype is a fake!!
If anyone received the SE edition, please make a video and post it on youtube.
I only find videos from five or six persons, most of the GCW Team.

I have a dream!
I'll take a new JXD open it and put the pcb in my self builded case . My brand "XRC"
XRC means "xtreme retro console", then i make a video showed some emulators running.
Then i start my own kickstarter and hope you guys will spend a lot.
If i got 130'000 bucks, i'll ask my chinese friend (he lives in shenzhen) if he'll help me to produce it.
simple, isn't it :P

obvious troll is obvious

ace9094

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4394 on: January 27, 2013, 06:59:31 pm »
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190318092401/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM</a>


Hahahahaha.... now that is funny....
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retrodd

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4395 on: January 27, 2013, 09:45:26 pm »
I don't want write bad news, but it's how it is.

We will buy an existing system, with a revised Linux OS. The GCW Team want  the chinese factory to upgrade memory and cpu.

What do you think is written under the tape in the video?

<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190318092401/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cN2wZM28Gw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cN2wZM28Gw</a>

is the openpandora the better decision?

ithought

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4396 on: January 27, 2013, 10:05:17 pm »
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190318092401/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnz14HEN9oY" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnz14HEN9oY</a>

what was the bad news?

gcw

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4397 on: January 27, 2013, 10:20:49 pm »
The internal factory call-sign of our prototype was H-350. The case was made by a third party plastics manufacturer, so they might have shopped the case around. Look at Gemei, they made an A330 and so did Dingoo Digital and DingooTech.

There is nothing special about the name or the casing other then it was originally our design with the factory making it for us. Panton - the other factory in question - is not the manfacturer we use.

The reason we kept this call sign hidden on the prototypes is not to feed the speculations among the people. On another note the CPU was never upgraded and several tweaks and more memory were added. The original prototype only had 128MB ram.

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4398 on: January 27, 2013, 10:37:08 pm »
KICKSTARTER OVER 200.000


NoeL

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #4399 on: January 28, 2013, 04:56:09 am »
I don't want write bad news, but it's how it is.

We will buy an existing system, with a revised Linux OS. The GCW Team want  the chinese factory to upgrade memory and cpu.
If you look far enough back in the archives you can see initial sketches for the case design, and how it changed over time to look like how it does now. Same goes for the internal hardware. GCW also announced this console over a year ago - if all they're doing is buying a bunch of pre-made consoles why did it take them so long to go to market?

I understand your concerns, but it seems you're coming to conclusions without knowing all the evidence.