We were discussing this also among developers, but your post has some very specific problems and their possible solutions that we will definitely look at.
Note that I've done some behind-the-scenes work about some things already, which is awaiting inclusion
upstream (on qi-hardware). After this discussion, I will probably make some more code adjustments, and a second preview version as an OPK. Here's some of the user-visible changes in my work:
commit c649e24: Merge code from Selector into BrowseDialog (has a much longer description than this)
commit ee482ae: Get rid of the action on D-pad Left in BrowseDialogcommit 914b415: Use the last file name selected for a LinkApp as a hint in Selectorcommit d0b54bb: Initially select the current wallpaper in WallpaperDialog- - - - - - - - -
Now that that's presented, I'll reply to your post. Because separate quotes would extend the height of the post a lot, I'll reply inline in pink, and your post is in the default color.I would like to share some ideas about gmenu2x.
I will try to give my feedback from a user experience perspective only.
How I see this to be more user friendly, more intuitive.
Also, I would like to apology by advance because my english is not the best.
I am from France and you know how bad english speakers we are here.
Browsing romsI think use of triggers is not convenient or confortable.
It is simple in my opinion to use only the dpad to navigate : up and down, right and left to navigate by blocks + a ".." item at the top to go to the top folder.
At the same time, I can understand that it can also be painful to go at the top of very huge list in order to get back to the upper folder.
So let's say we use up and down + the triggers R and L buttons.
OK. why not? So today how the left and right buttons are used ?
I notice left is used to go the upper folder, very good, it looks like on a windows explorer.
So I expect the right button to let me enter into the folder.
But no, it does not do anything. This is annoying, left and right are not working as an opposite action.
Yeah, I also noticed that inconsistency. In my work up there, you can see that I removed the action on D-pad Left, freeing it up for an action more consistent with a new use for D-pad Left/Right.So what I think, we have two possibilities :
- only the dpad to navigate, very convenient but forcing the user to go at the top of the list to go the upper folder
- use the current way of working but enter into a folder when pushing right on it (like file explorer on windows and mac)
What I was thinking, was either:- have D-pad Left/Right do page scrolling, and have L/R be used for horizontal scrolling of cut-off names;- have D-pad Left/Right do page scrolling, have automatic horizontal scrolling of cut-off names (with a setting for how fast that is) and have L/R unassigned;- have D-pad Left/Right do horizontal scrolling of cut-off names, and leave L/R assigned to page scrolling.But I think page scrolling needs to be held for more time than name scrolling usually, so maybe having the d-pad do page scrolling would be best. Opinions please? In any case, it is important for the system to keep in memory the last item selected.
Yep. And because keeping only the "index" into the list of files is pretty crashy and bad for other reasons, I made it keep the file name as a hint for later. See even more of my reasoning in commit 914b415: Use the last file name selected for a LinkApp as a hint in Selector. Preview screenshots:This is a very nice feature. I can imagine that we will soon find Game titles set for each system (for goodgen and no intro formats).
The first issue I can see is that we must the folder preview in the folder that contains the roms.
Unless it is possible to put this preview folder as hidden (.preview), - I did not test this - we can see the folder in the list so the preview folder is quite "polluating" the list.
That's a very good idea, and I didn't even think of that. There's already a way to do it (previews/NAME.png), so I'd avoid breaking that needlessly. But introducing a dot-directory would hide things by default in FTP managers too, so it'd be confusing to those who just made a .previews directory and see it disappear (!), or can't get back into it later (!!).So instead, how about allowing both previews/ and .previews/ and look up a file in either of those two? (For completeness, if a preview is in both previews/ and .previews/, the one in previews/ has precedence, because it's the most clearly visible directory.)The screenshot when it is there is not automatically resized to fullfill the screen. So it is not very nice looking.
Perhaps, it could be nice to offer this option in the gmenu2x for resizing previews files (fullscreen, original size, zoom, etc.)
hi-ban instead had another idea. Because showing a preview as the background of gmenu2x is bad, he wanted to show a separate preview-pane. Maybe you'd like that better.Showing the preview as a background was a stop-gap measure. It's bad because either you have a super busy preview as your background which prevents you from reading the text, or you blend the preview with the wallpaper and people complain that it's not clear enough (but then it'd be too busy for them to read the text).Compare these screenshots with partial and full alpha. Below is the preview-pane idea, mocked up by hi-ban.Gmenu2x Theme:When I run an emulator, the gmenu2x file explorer is called and displayed. This is nice, but it should nicer if the gmenu file explorer could have a "skin" to match with the emulator front end UI.
It should have for instance this background image which was used in the previous file explorer (the red and black SNES artwork) displayed for all the files with no preview file in the preview folder.
As it is now, I always feel that I enter and leave from the emulator and this is not pleasant.
I really don't know about that one. Either:a) each application is updated to have a background for its own gmenu2x file browser (which is a bit bad because it ties applications with a specific resolution - which will be odd when HDMI is available); -or-b) you have a new dot-directory in your internal memory and you associate backgrounds with applications by name matching (but because I update PocketSNES with date-stamped versions, and some other developers also do that, you'd have to rename your file once in a while);c) why not just leave it like it is now, and have the wallpaper the user chose there? he or she likely chose it specifically for how not busy it is;d) ??Long filenames:About the very long names, I do not know how it works now but I hope when we select a very long name and we wait with this item selected, the file explorer display the end of the name (with a scrolling or a popup)
I wanted to clean up code before implementing name scrolling. gmenu2x had different code for the Application Explorer/File Dialog/Wallpaper Dialog/Icon Dialog and the file selector brought up for applications. Now name scrolling can be implemented just once and apply to all of them, but I still don't know if we should have automatic name scrolling at 60 FPS with the ghosting we have on our screen, or lower FPS, or manual name scrolling (and with what button). Opinions please? This is all I see for the moment, but of course I will add some ideas if they come.
Thanks again Nebuleon and all the others developers involved in this wonderful project.
Hey, you're welcome!