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Offline cutterjohn

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #135 on: July 22, 2012, 07:51:07 PM »
Quote from: exodus on July 22, 2012, 07:37:02 PM
Since it might be the same software as the mk802. Look at this fix for the sd card write premission.

http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75&sid=9bdac9b6a6bf02ee881287ee1c75b5a0
Thanks.  I'll have to check up on that later, probably help with Block Story and some of the other apps being able to install.

I'm trying to track down where/how you change the boot priorities.  I've seen it somewhere before, but it was quite sometime back...
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Offline cutterjohn

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #136 on: July 22, 2012, 11:07:17 PM »
Here's a link to the OE forum, not much there yet...
http://www.ovalelephant.com/forum/index.php
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Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #137 on: July 23, 2012, 06:01:03 AM »
My usb video game controller has arrived and works! I am going to order a second one and see if this device can do two player.


Cost for a kick ass emulation station?

32gb flash drive $27 - http://www.meritline.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=68622
usb game controller $9 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JAU20W
mk802 $78 (2nd gen) - http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/108633315.html
MeLee F10 Air Mouse $27 - http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/108747451.html
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$141.00

:\  Ok the price can be a little lower, but it is still a great device.
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Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #138 on: July 24, 2012, 02:05:16 PM »
I got the MeLe F10 Air Mouse/Keyboard. It works, but the air mouse after using a Wii remote has something to be desired.  Maybe a touch pad/keyboard would have been better.  The mouse does not track correctly. It is slow to respond and off with the X axis. It keeps wanting to track left.

How do you change the mouse cursor and icon sizes? they are to small for me to see on my sofa.

Also, played netflix and it was laggy and stuttery compared to the WDTV and Wii netflix. :(  Maybe with a dual core it will be better?  I am super glad I have the other games to make it all better.

I heard they mest up DTS and the Generic keyboard layout on the firmware update. ewww.

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Offline cutterjohn

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #139 on: July 25, 2012, 09:34:15 PM »
Found another one today:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271023720044?var=&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
some news site claim quad core, but I'm skeptical with the A10 as I would've expected their multicores to be at least -a9 and use a different chip "name".

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Skip this. Overpriced.  Just checked their own site, and directly states A10 cortex-a8 w/quad "core" mali-400 so the one newsite is run by the illiterate...
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Good news is that it ships in the US(from MT), but the bad news is that it's pretty expensive c. $130 and won't be getting the first ones until August sometime apparently.

If they DO turn out to actually be quad core, I'm going to have to take a serious look, but I think that I'll wait on vid/gfx accel for VPU/mali first.  (Vid/VPU accel appears to be coming, partially courtesy of Allwinner... GPU is a WIP... some basic 2D geometry accel ATM)

OE:  Got a possible hint on my OE linux booting no video problem, but no time to check today.  (from j1nx who is building a linaro version specifically for the OE) suggested copying evb.bin from OE to boot part of the uSD.

Also have a USB dongle, USB ethernet(10/100), and 2 actiontec 500Mbps homeplug adapters coming.  Should be in tomorrow but may not get around to trying them until the weekend.  (I'm just hoping that the homeplugs work as I'm sure that wiring in this house hasn't really been touched much in 60y, circuit box is probably newer but all the wall wiring is probably original which could be as much a 70-80y old I'd guess at.  I'll be needing them to get the raspi going since it lacks wifi OOB and most of the images don't have all the drivers/fw pre-loaded.)

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Mouse: presumably you mean under Android?  probably ONLY way to change it would be to modify a config file, that is even IF you can do that... might be quickest to go to a generic android forum with devs, e.g. xda-devs and ask(search first) about it.
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Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #140 on: July 25, 2012, 10:49:35 PM »
That ad is a total lie. The AllWinner can only go up to 1ghz without over clocking it. They took the lies and added to the lie. lol.. China Mfgs are pairing the Mali-400 GPU speed with the speed of the CPU and calling it the main core CPU speed 1.5Ghz. haha. Which is a lie. Let me pair my computers GPU clock with my dual core clock and say it is that speed. lie.

Now you can buy a Mali in Quad core. Which is why they might be saying that is quad core, but most China stuff is only Single Core. Saying it has Bluetooth 2.1.. Hrm.. bluetooth is now 4.0.. so i wonder.

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a8.php - Says up to 1ghz.
http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php - roughly 400 mhz-450 mhz

What they need is some benchmarks and system info videos/screen shots on the website.
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Offline ruffnutts

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #141 on: July 26, 2012, 10:13:47 PM »
Finally installed CM9 on one of my tv sticks and its so much nicer to use it has bluetooth support the bemchmark was better aswell... this was the 512 model now I can sell this one and keep my MK802 1GB  ;)
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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #142 on: July 26, 2012, 10:56:40 PM »
Those actiontec homeplugs came in this afternoon, so I hooked em up and tried them:
saturates my cable connection, but so does wifi

xferring a c. 260MB file I was getting c. 5300KB/s w/"ethernet"(homeplug, realtek 1G port on desktop, not Intel)
versus about 3900KB/s using 2.4GHz wifi N on the same machine.  (I'm getting nowhere near their 500Mbps mark, but I'm still happy with what I do get as it beats running ethernet with 30' of cable.)

x-fer rates were pretty stable...

So, I'm pretty happy with those plugs... now to get a wifi homeplug for the garage(detached, but has had power run to it)...

I also got my wifi and ethernet USB dongles, but I won't have time to test them on either the mk802 or OE today.

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BTW: the file xfers were between my nb(MSI GT725/P8600/4GB) running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, 5GHz 802.11n wifi (108Mbps linked at the time) to my Netgear N600(WNDR3400v2) router connected via 100M ether port to one homeplug.  Second homeplug in next room connected to my new desktop(ASUS P9X79/3930k/16GB) Realtek(NOT Intel) 1G ether port.  Used winscp under windows 7 x64, sftp connection.

So, it's lik ethis:
Desktop <--cat5 ether cable 100Mbps--> homeplug #2 <--home power run theory 500Mbps--> homeplug #1 <--cat5 ether cable 100Mbps--> WNDR3400v2 <--802.11n 5GHz 108Mbps--> notebook

Did the xfer w/the nb because it was up, wired servers are off ATM, one needs a new CPU, and the other doesn't have much storage ATM and nothing that I need immediately(used to serve as my router back in the day along with 2 PCI ether cards, 100M switch, and a linksys b/g AP. when my airport crapped out on me(original one, so I just recycled the PCMCIA wifi card in it(yes it actually had a PCMCIA wifi card to do 802.11b) for my newton...).)
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according to reviews and testing that I have read those plugs in IDEAL conditions can get about 100M ethernet speeds...
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Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #143 on: July 27, 2012, 03:34:38 AM »
Going to change the build.prop to be the Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300). I have wondering if it should be the Tab 7.7 (GT-P6800), or the Galaxy II. As they all have the same GPU and CPU. Except the Galaxy S III will have a quad core cpu instead of a single core cpu.  I think skeltons orginal suggestion was the best.  Galaxy S II..  As the Tab 7.7 can only run android v2.3 and Galaxy S II can go to 4+. not sure if that makes a difference.
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Online SNESFAN

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #144 on: July 27, 2012, 12:00:19 PM »
So i just found out about the vizio co-star... google set top box with cortex a9 like performance ... arm v7 based, has neon so all android emulators will run and has bluetooth.... costs 99$

Only downfall... sold out from manufacturer in 12 hours after launch.... guess i wasnt the only one waiting for something like that to drop.... fuck

@exodus- one of the flags is the version of android in build.prop the api level will determine the version or availability of the app. Apps coded with ndk that are hardware specific or version of gles also have particular flags. If the hardware matches exactly you could try just blanket copy/paste but i would suggest going line by line until some app breaks or the desired app shows up
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Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #145 on: July 27, 2012, 02:09:51 PM »
None of the Glu Mobile games would show up as installable for the device. After the change they showed up and installed. I mest up the device and broke the google play software and spent a good 5-6 hrs trying to get vending.apk (google play) to launch again. It would just close out before fully loading and not give a reason  but I finally got it to work.

That vizio co-star looks pretty sweet!!
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Offline cutterjohn

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #146 on: July 28, 2012, 01:56:27 AM »
Ah hah! Found it. The OEM of the oval Elephant:
I believe that this aliexpress shop is run by Tom Cubies, the guy who did the orinal kernels and linux boot images.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/511685?PID=5741794&cv=10975781&cn=null&tp1=null&tracelog=null&src=ale&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliexpress.com%2Fstore%2F511685&af=cj_5741794&vd=30

I'll add the company link in an edit IF I can find it. Looks IDENTICAL to the Oval Elephant, and he sells a UART -> USB cable (serial port access most people won't need/want it, but he has them ready made for you lazy gits).

Here's an article from someone who has just received one:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/27/smallart-u-host-hackable-mini-pc-unboxing-and-review/

It's the Smallart Uhost.
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Allwinner_A10
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Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #147 on: July 29, 2012, 01:43:29 AM »
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Offline ricsi

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #148 on: July 29, 2012, 09:39:06 AM »
I think so.

Looks very much like it ;)
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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #149 on: July 29, 2012, 03:24:47 PM »
Quote from: exodus on July 29, 2012, 01:43:29 AM
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/u2-mini-android-4-0-network-multi-media-player-w-wi-fi-hdmi-tf-black-4gb-ddr-iii-1gb-145864

is this it?
yep, see the U-host on the box?  The OE one came w/a different (crap, literally garbage) PSU, no box, no manual, but o.w. same cables AFAICT, so it's a slightly better deal from Tom Cubies or DX... OTOH if you're in the US it's hard to beat being able to order in country for fast shipping.  Non-US you're probably as well off ordering from Tom Cubies(ships on weekend unless you pick express ship and tell him).

i.e. I'd skip DX, it's more expensive anyways from them.
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