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Offline ruffnutts

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #120 on: July 17, 2012, 06:48:29 PM »
Ok you mean what I did in my video... with you now lol
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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #121 on: July 18, 2012, 04:03:14 AM »
So very pist right now. it is flipping through different screen resolutions. At first it started at 720p. Then went to well beyond that resolution without me doing anything. Now it will not even be detected by my HDTV.

I am going to try to reflash the firmware and see what happens. This really is upsetting.

Nope even an reflash it is still doing it. OMG, this really really sucks. I don't have a spare mini-hdmi cable. grr!!!
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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #122 on: July 18, 2012, 02:57:07 PM »
Some news here you will find info on how to install CWM for the MK802 for better recovery and nandroid backups
And flashing firmware in the future

http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=142

ruffnutts  ;)

EDIT: Here is a new firmware to flash with livesuite

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymniy6oii94h5yk/FW%200710B.rar?m

Changes are below

fix list:
1. Supported USB camera; capatibility list as attached.
2. Added resolution adjust function.
3. Optimized 24 items based on the core,related response speed upgrade, enhance the user experience.
4. Fixed the multilingual bug of sometimes setting language occur error.
5. Fixed some flicking issue.

ruffnutts
« Last Edit: July 18, 2012, 03:04:50 PM by ruffnutts »
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Offline cutterjohn

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #123 on: July 18, 2012, 10:35:18 PM »
Tried Block Story what a cool looking game, not had much luck with a gamepad or keyboard and mouse.. may contact developer see if thay can change this.....
email them.  They were(well the one of the pair that actually speaks decent english or at least reads/writes it) helpful when trying to track down why Block Story would NOT work on the s5110 (ICS fw) after an update.

The problem here though is that I REALLY got the impression that they just don't know much at all about Android.  i.e. I was giving them some pretty detailed info, logs, etc. and they basically couldn't suggest anything more than I tried already or proposed.  Some day IF I have time I'm going to have to read what dox there are on how Android installation via store(and generally) is supposed to work to see if I can't identify why the hacked up s5110 ICS fw isn't liking Block Story updates.  (They've taken it off the compatible devices until it's resolved.)

So I wouldn't hold your breath about getting better peripheral support as they seem to be mostly relying on whatever than game engine they're using to do the heavy OS technical stuff, and I suspect now that they have iOS working that they'll, unfortunately, be more interested in that.

RasPi is supposedly readyish for mass selling again, although I've still not gotten any emails from the two distributors that I signed up with...

...and there's a new rumor now that Phoronix is implying that the actual entire official ARM mali driver might be released as OSS... nothing concrete, but just a general implication, so it could also be nVidia Tegra GPU driver going OSS(earlier more definite reports that nVidia was trying to determine the course for the Tegra BLOBs and source), or maybe even PowerVR or Adreno OSS drivers... i.e. all rumors and TBH I couldn't see exactly why mali would stand out more than any of the rest...

In theory, my Oval Elephant should ship on Friday, o.w. I'm cancelling it... so maybe Monday/Tuesday next week I'll have one, along with a General Magic Datarover 840(Magic Cap OS 3.0 unfortunaely sans batt) and a Palm T|X(snaffled a NIB one for a decent price, just because I never got around to buying an ARM Palm while they were in production, HP 50G next on list as my 49G kinda sucks(crappy kb) and my 48SX went away on a loan that never got returned).

Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #124 on: July 19, 2012, 12:48:23 AM »
The update fixed the flicking resolution problem, but it did not fix the usb video controller problem.

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #125 on: July 19, 2012, 06:51:24 AM »
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RasPi is supposedly readyish for mass selling again, although I've still not gotten any emails from the two distributors that I signed up with...

Got mine a few weeks ago have not had a chance to use it yet lol and my modmypi case turned up yesterday

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The update fixed the flicking resolution problem, but it did not fix the usb video controller problem.

It does seem faster but the app Quadrent Standard don't work no more installs but when you run a benchmark screen stays black... I updated the Z802 with this firmware as its the same hardware.. I also installed the CWM and that works fine  ;)

« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 06:56:14 AM by ruffnutts »
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Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #126 on: July 19, 2012, 01:52:04 PM »
What does the CWM do for it?

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #127 on: July 19, 2012, 03:04:45 PM »
Clockworkmod is a custom recovery can make backups of the device and flash new roms without livesuite straight off The SD normally called udate.zip just like the way the JXD S602 updates its firmware.. will see new updates like this in The future...

Nandroid backups is meant to be a direct copy of your device.. so no need for titanuim backup  ;)
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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #128 on: July 19, 2012, 03:30:42 PM »
Clockworkmod is a custom recovery can make backups of the device and flash new roms without livesuite straight off The SD normally called udate.zip just like the way the JXD S602 updates its firmware.. will see new updates like this in The future...

Nandroid backups is meant to be a direct copy of your device.. so no need for titanuim backup  ;)
From what I'd read yesterday CWM is NOT working properly with the latest ICS fw for the 802.  (Well it probably still works, but the menu displays are all messed up apparently...)

My Oval Elephant order status has changed from "pending" to "captured", which I presume means that they sucked the cash out of my account and plan to ship it soon, hopefully today although it won't really matter unless it goes out earlyish today.  (I'd still have a good chance of getting it Saturday if it goes out before too late today.  USPS is faster than the pokey commercial carriers unless you pay their exorbitant overnight/2d/weekend surcharges. I get packages in 3d in lower 48 coast-to-coast, and quicker if it's anything not quite that far from 1-2d, plus FREE Saturday delivery to boot.)

My General Magic Datarover 840 should show up in my mailbox today as well, although we've been having a different carrier lately who comes by quite late v. the old guy who usually used to be here around 9a.  Also got some stuff the other day that they didn't even really try to fit in the mailbox properly(it's a LARGE mailbox and package wasn't that big but they decided that it was OK to kind of leave it hanging out the end of the box, I'm surprised that they didn't put a very large TAKE ME FREE sign on it...)

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #129 on: July 19, 2012, 03:42:41 PM »
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From what I'd read yesterday CWM is NOT working properly with the latest ICS fw for the 802.  (Well it probably still works, but the menu displays are all messed up apparently...)

Yeah that's true as it happends....
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Offline cutterjohn

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2012, 05:47:54 PM »
Well, order a rapi + enclosure for the helluvait... shipping cost almost as much as the model b FFS, and I chose their CHEAPEST shipping method...  (The place that I ordered from seems to be business-to-business oriented as their entire order forms were geared for that and POs, must've modded them a little when they started selling the raspi... Address part still insisted on/required a company name...

Hope that you're not planning on emulating with the Raspi as perf WILL be less than the A10, but for me since it's enough to make a dumb TV smart, I'll be comparing the Oval Elephant AND the PI to see which one runs cooler/etc.

Place I ordered from claims 5w to delivery, other choice stated 12w... wonder which is closer to truth...

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #131 on: July 20, 2012, 10:37:13 PM »
Just perusing the netbook-arm mailing list a few minutes ago and apparently Allwinner will be officially supporting xbmc...

(My Palm T|X came in this afternoon(charging).  Found a solution for a battery(main) for the Datarover 840, but no luck yet on a magic bus cable(data cable has funky proprietary connector that I've never seen before...).)

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #132 on: July 21, 2012, 05:02:23 PM »
Some guy in England is apprently selling Allwiner A10 based dev boards(calling it ever so imaginatively, the Gooseberry), for c. $62.

uSD, miniHDMI, WiFi, uUSB OTG, power button, vol. rockers, and optional AC power(ships with it but can also be powered off USB), running our old friend ICS and booting linux from uSD(he demoed in a video the rhombus Ubuntu image).

He's already sold all 500 that he originally order and the last timing that I was able to find from 7/12 mention 2-6w delivery timeframe for that FIRST(500) batch.

Haven't found anything else about what phoronix was stirring up the other day yet... no sign of OSS mali(or other) driver ann. yet...

[EDIT=sometime later...]
Toby who is doing the linaro, armhf build has gotten the OSS mali driver running.  It doesn't add alot ATM, but it is a hopeful sign...  (miniand forums)

Still nothing at all from Oval Elephant, the 20th has come and gone and all my order says is "captured" which it changed to from "pending" several days ago.  Of course my Palm T\X was shipped priority mail with tracking and all it ever got was the original message stating that the shipment invoice had been generated.  Still said that this morning when I checked again even though it was actually delivered yesterday afternoon...  (I guess one package out of 10 or so that I had shipped through the mail over the last month the foulup isn't too bad as it wasn't lost or damaged...)
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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #133 on: July 22, 2012, 02:56:01 PM »
Oval Elephant came in yesterday's mail, unexpectedly... apparently has a mic which I missed in their description page, 3.5mm headphone jack, 1 miniUSB OTG, 1 fullsize USB, male full size HDMI(comes with a female-male HDMI extension cable, but I'm going to need a longer one). 

Actually ALL of the cables that they shipped with it were pretty short, so I might do some rooting around for old USB cables to see if I can't come up with some longer ones and/or power from one of the desktop's USB ports.  HDMI's going to be a problem, but I suppose that I can hook it up to my monitor relatively safely this time since it actually has the ESD clamping chips, but I'll still need/want to find some longer USB cables.  (The short ones will be great once it gets setup completely, and just hangs to the side/back of the TV.)

I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but hopefully this morning. (Might not be able to get to it IF I can't find some longer cables fairly quickly...)

(Expect pretty much identical performance to the 802s. [EDIT] Just remembered, monitor's 1080p so IF I hook it up to that the perf will be a little worse v. the 720p TV that I hooked the 802 up to a couple of times, more pixels to push linux is unlikely to be useable but maybe I can burn the armhf image and follow toby's guide to the mali driver install which should help a little even if not much is accelerated yet. [/EDIT])

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OK.  Gave up and just used the short cables to TV(720p, HDMI port on monitor is in a position that's a PITA to insert cords, actually ALL of the ports on it are like that... along a bottom edge and recessed...)  TV handily has USB jacks and HDMI so I could do all in one thing plus the wireless RF kb that I got.

Anyways, ICS booted up as expected, 4.0.4.  Ok here is where the goodness ends.  Tries to connect to my WPA2 network(2.4GHz) and just loops connect-disconnect constantly.  (Netgear N600 WNDR3400v2 router that I just picked up Tuesday evening as my old one died on me(DIR-615 rev. b2) set up for b/g/n.  OE can't see the 5GHz net, nor can the 802.)

So, I just say well enough of that, yank the USB, insert my 12.04 lubuntu v3 (miniand) imaged uSD into the slot, re-insert USB, and .... and ... and ... nothing. I'll try pulling the RF dongle to see if that's messing things up, but I unfortunately suspect that this might need some work.
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Never got the uSD Ubuntu image to boot, so there's a config file that needs to be changed back to giving the uSD boot priority is my guess.

WiFi eventually connected under Android but it took it ALOT of connect-disconnect cycles.

Quadrant doesn't run, I'm sure because of the screen orientation.  With the 802s it would run "sideways" which never happens with the OE.

Antutu got about 2750, about 15.75 linpack single thread, 15.0 multi-thread, 37.5fps in nenamark

Block Story failed to install, complained about SD card as did one other app.  (I think that this ICS fw is going to be in DIRE need of a custom ROM... if you plan to use Android...)

According to Android System Info CPU freqs go all the way up to 1488MHz although it spent 0% time there, while spending 20% @ 1008MHz. -> setCPU + profile and your good to OC, although one guy (mrspin) on the OE forums said that he was only able to go to 1056MHz before Antutu started crashing. (Oval Elephant has forums now, for their mini pc hardware.)

Oh yes, it also powers off.  There's a nice "power" softbutton that gives the option to shutdown, reboot, or cancel.  The physical button on the device will power it back up, it's also used in their fw flashing process, aka "U" button.

Maybe later in the week I'll have/take time to hook it up to the notebook or desktop and do a little snooping around with adb...

The general model of the OE is apparently K-A10, and none of the buildinfo, etc. from Android System Info had any of the familiar reff04 board refs, this time they UL1 IIRC.

Maybe spend some more time looking up if there are quick way to force a10 boards back to boot priority to uSD, o.w. I'm stuck until I or someone else finds something to do so...
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« Last Edit: July 22, 2012, 05:57:17 PM by cutterjohn »

Offline exodus

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Re: Android on a stick for $79
« Reply #134 on: July 22, 2012, 07:37:02 PM »
Since it might be the same software as the mk802. Look at this fix for the sd card write premission.

http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75&sid=9bdac9b6a6bf02ee881287ee1c75b5a0